Star Trek TNG The Next Level - (BRRip 1080p 5.1)
- Type:
- Video > Highres - TV shows
- Files:
- 4
- Size:
- 11 GB
- Spoken language(s):
- English
- Tag(s):
- star trek generation next leve
- Quality:
- +5 / -0 (+5)
- Uploaded:
- Feb 10, 2012
- By:
- nelwyn
This is my own rip from the blu-ray. Files were encoded for quality rather than filesize. The blu-ray is sharp, but snowy on some parts. I think these actually look slightly better than the blu-ray itself. I used a heavy denoise filter to remove most of the snow. Technical Details: Source: Blu-Ray Resolution: 1440x1080 (cropped black bars) Container: MKV Encoder: H.264 Framerate: 23.976 Quality Setting: CRF-16 Audio: DTS 5.1 Passthrough
I thought the blurays were 7.1 audio not 5.1?
Quality; I see that sins of the father is actually a smaller file size than the other torrent (1.97GB vs 2.4GB), why?
Encounter at farpoint is twice the length as the other two videos because it is a 2-part episode. But why is it only equivalent to 2.5GB per episode? Maybe it looks identical to you at that quality compared to the original bluray. It very well might be because h.264 is a good format.
Thanks
Quality; I see that sins of the father is actually a smaller file size than the other torrent (1.97GB vs 2.4GB), why?
Encounter at farpoint is twice the length as the other two videos because it is a 2-part episode. But why is it only equivalent to 2.5GB per episode? Maybe it looks identical to you at that quality compared to the original bluray. It very well might be because h.264 is a good format.
Thanks
any chance of a "media info" on one of the files, for example.....
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 12 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 33mn
Bit rate : 5 736 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 546 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.342
Stream size : 3.66 GiB (91%)
Writing library : x264 core 115 r1947+532 361db68
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=12 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / fade_compensate=0.00 / psy_rd=1.05:0.10 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / fgo=0 / bframes=6 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=5736 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=1 / qpmax=63 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.80
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 12 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 33mn
Bit rate : 5 736 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 546 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.342
Stream size : 3.66 GiB (91%)
Writing library : x264 core 115 r1947+532 361db68
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=12 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / fade_compensate=0.00 / psy_rd=1.05:0.10 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / fgo=0 / bframes=6 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=5736 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=1 / qpmax=63 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.80
The audio stream says 5.1. They probably didn't record the show in 7.1.
As far as the sizes go, as I said in the description these are encoded for quality, not filesize. I didn't force it to a certain size like most people do. I set the quality as a constant rate factor and let the encoder determine the size. The size is based on how much action there is where a higher bitrate would be needed to maintain the set quality.
As far as the sizes go, as I said in the description these are encoded for quality, not filesize. I didn't force it to a certain size like most people do. I set the quality as a constant rate factor and let the encoder determine the size. The size is based on how much action there is where a higher bitrate would be needed to maintain the set quality.
Media info for Sins of the Father. I actually used a 0,0 deblock on the other two files but the other settings were the same.
General
Unique ID : 144668545693411494128466700532122801744 (0x6CD625FE9A77CB24F872687C576A5650)
Complete name : E:\STTNG - The Next Level\Sins of the Father.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 1.97 GiB
Duration : 45mn 39s
Overall bit rate : 6 163 Kbps
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.5
Writing library : libmkv 0.6.4.1
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 45mn 39s
Bit rate : 4 531 Kbps
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.122
Stream size : 1.44 GiB (74%)
Writing library : x264 core 112
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=16.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 45mn 39s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 493 MiB (24%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
General
Unique ID : 144668545693411494128466700532122801744 (0x6CD625FE9A77CB24F872687C576A5650)
Complete name : E:\STTNG - The Next Level\Sins of the Father.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 1.97 GiB
Duration : 45mn 39s
Overall bit rate : 6 163 Kbps
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.5
Writing library : libmkv 0.6.4.1
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 45mn 39s
Bit rate : 4 531 Kbps
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.122
Stream size : 1.44 GiB (74%)
Writing library : x264 core 112
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=16.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 45mn 39s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 493 MiB (24%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Oh OK thanks for the clarification.
So when you see an episode from this torrent, then you see that episode on the bluray disk, is the quality on the disk noticeably better?
If so, I would happily seed a raw bluray disk torrent if you start it up.
So when you see an episode from this torrent, then you see that episode on the bluray disk, is the quality on the disk noticeably better?
If so, I would happily seed a raw bluray disk torrent if you start it up.
Oh OK thanks for the clarification.
So when you watch an episode in this torrent, and then you watch that episode from the bluray disk itself (both being viewed on a big screen like a TV), is the bluray disk noticeably higher quality.
I mean I'm sure your re-encode was lossy compression but I don't know if it cuts into the quality much.
If there's a noticable difference, I'd happily seed a torrent of the raw bluray that you start!
So when you watch an episode in this torrent, and then you watch that episode from the bluray disk itself (both being viewed on a big screen like a TV), is the bluray disk noticeably higher quality.
I mean I'm sure your re-encode was lossy compression but I don't know if it cuts into the quality much.
If there's a noticable difference, I'd happily seed a torrent of the raw bluray that you start!
Thank you for the rip, thank you for the great seeding. Im so happy right now. After only half an hour i can already watch the first episode. This is so great!! OMG the enterprise in HD. Im so excited. I feel like a kid again. :-)
You guys rock, the seeding is awesome.
I get 2,5-3MB/s and am already at 75% after about an hour. I do not have this kind of upload-bandwith, but i will use my laptop for some energy-efficient 24/7 seeding.
Thanks again!
I get 2,5-3MB/s and am already at 75% after about an hour. I do not have this kind of upload-bandwith, but i will use my laptop for some energy-efficient 24/7 seeding.
Thanks again!
The blu-ray looks noticeably grainier. I prefer the rip myself because it looks cleaner with the same level of detail. The darker scenes have a lot of film grain. I've tried encoding without the denoise filter to maintain the grain and all it does is increase the file size about 2-3 times while looking more like the disc.
I may do the whole disc if I get time and let everyone decide what they think looks better.
I may do the whole disc if I get time and let everyone decide what they think looks better.
At least you guys appreciate this. I just deleted it from Demonoid because people are bitching about me using a denoiser on it and insisting that it killed the quality when it doesn't look a damn bit different at all.
this will not be a very good copy, (perception is relative, but when considering a good vs good quality decision, one should always look at encoder settings used for the encode.... and NOT what it looks like on screen)
me=hex / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / ref=3 / me_range=16 / crf=16.0
a far better setting would be
me=umh / subme=8-9 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / ref=5 / me_range=24 / crf=18.0 - 20.0
and no Deblock!
NOTES, crf 18 would be just the same as crf 16 because of the other settings
(when using the more advance quality settings in x264 you can push the compression a little further without any lost in quality)
Deblock settings are too much
also if you use psy_rd=1.00:0.15 then this will attempt to hold the sharp detail that usually would be lost by the re-compression, yet this method is a better choice because x264 will attempt to compensate for the lost in sharpness due to re-compression, Deblock on the other hand actually sharpens the image instead, however if the numbers are not carefully calibrated to the material in question (this can take a lot of tests to do), then the image could become to sharp or not sharp enough.
although psy_rd use to be experimental some years back, it has come a long way since then, and many do recommend this method over deblocking. (deblocking is only superior to psy_rd if the numbers have been carefully set for the material in question..... but this would require quite a few runs to get right....and very good attention to DETAIL)
the deblock settings on this encode are quite HIGH THOUGH!!!
-3:-3.... that would definitely sharpen quite a lot (too much I would suspect)
to answer the question, the quality of this encode is far inferior to the bluray disk itself (fact), due to the inferior quality settings used in the encode compared to the bluray source, however the more advance options that get used in x264, the lower the compatibility the files become! it's a tradeoff.
me=hex / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / ref=3 / me_range=16 / crf=16.0
a far better setting would be
me=umh / subme=8-9 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / ref=5 / me_range=24 / crf=18.0 - 20.0
and no Deblock!
NOTES, crf 18 would be just the same as crf 16 because of the other settings
(when using the more advance quality settings in x264 you can push the compression a little further without any lost in quality)
Deblock settings are too much
also if you use psy_rd=1.00:0.15 then this will attempt to hold the sharp detail that usually would be lost by the re-compression, yet this method is a better choice because x264 will attempt to compensate for the lost in sharpness due to re-compression, Deblock on the other hand actually sharpens the image instead, however if the numbers are not carefully calibrated to the material in question (this can take a lot of tests to do), then the image could become to sharp or not sharp enough.
although psy_rd use to be experimental some years back, it has come a long way since then, and many do recommend this method over deblocking. (deblocking is only superior to psy_rd if the numbers have been carefully set for the material in question..... but this would require quite a few runs to get right....and very good attention to DETAIL)
the deblock settings on this encode are quite HIGH THOUGH!!!
-3:-3.... that would definitely sharpen quite a lot (too much I would suspect)
to answer the question, the quality of this encode is far inferior to the bluray disk itself (fact), due to the inferior quality settings used in the encode compared to the bluray source, however the more advance options that get used in x264, the lower the compatibility the files become! it's a tradeoff.
forgot to take into account "Animation",
although the consensus is a bit hazy.... psy_rd for animation is not a good idea,
I think it's only right to also post a quick tip regarding Deblock (so many use it badly)
-1:-1 for "film", 1:1 for "animation" and -2:-2 for "grain"
this is a good starting point, but is reference only!!!, these numbers should always be checked first on the material being encoded (this is what most do not do)
one last thing to keep in mind about H.264 and it's deblocking filter, and that is H.264 is adaptive. If you give enough bitrate, there is less work for the deblocking filter to do...in other words, high bitrate encodes don't need Deblocking as much.
in my opinion Deblock in the right hands is powerful, but used wrongly....can have detrimental effects on the final output.....
i know i have gone on a bit about this, but when i saw the Deblock settings in this encode -3:-3!!!! i just had to post this...... far too many people use numbers in x264 without doing the proper research..
it's all here people, and really well explained.
http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings#deblock
doom9 is also very resourceful too, many experts (real experts not the ones that just think they are all because they know a few mumbo jumbo words)
although the consensus is a bit hazy.... psy_rd for animation is not a good idea,
I think it's only right to also post a quick tip regarding Deblock (so many use it badly)
-1:-1 for "film", 1:1 for "animation" and -2:-2 for "grain"
this is a good starting point, but is reference only!!!, these numbers should always be checked first on the material being encoded (this is what most do not do)
one last thing to keep in mind about H.264 and it's deblocking filter, and that is H.264 is adaptive. If you give enough bitrate, there is less work for the deblocking filter to do...in other words, high bitrate encodes don't need Deblocking as much.
in my opinion Deblock in the right hands is powerful, but used wrongly....can have detrimental effects on the final output.....
i know i have gone on a bit about this, but when i saw the Deblock settings in this encode -3:-3!!!! i just had to post this...... far too many people use numbers in x264 without doing the proper research..
it's all here people, and really well explained.
http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings#deblock
doom9 is also very resourceful too, many experts (real experts not the ones that just think they are all because they know a few mumbo jumbo words)
Umm, am I the only person that is very grateful for this upload? It is the only one up. Thank you very much nelwyn, for taking the time and effort involved in putting this up. I and my little brother both greatly appreciate it. Unfortunately my budget does not allow for any entertainment whatsoever and you uploading it allowed me to sit down and watch it, and he finally got into Star Trek after watching these episodes. Thanks again.
Looks like the TNG season 1 bluray set will be released on or around July 23rd this year!
I'm glad hard drive prices are going to go way down by the end of the year, like 3TB for $70 or less.
I'm glad hard drive prices are going to go way down by the end of the year, like 3TB for $70 or less.
If anyone creates the Season1 torrent, please make it at least 70GB in size, preferably about 100GB with h.264, this way it'll be basically bluray quality!?
Thanks
Thanks
According to the Wikipedia page for "Sins of the Father", some of the original 35mm prints could not be located, so they had to try to enhance standard def video. One can only hope that perhaps they found some more 35mm footage when the entire season is released in July...
Thanks for the torrent nelwyn, this is far better quality than the already available 350 MB dvdrips.
But i think the video bitrate is not enough. 6 111 Kbps (Encounter at Farpoint) and 4 531 Kbps (Sins of the Father)? The ideal would be 10 000- 15 000 Kbps for a 1080p video. That means a 4 GB/episode filesize (so 8 GB for the 2-part Encounter at Farpoint), but most people prefer quality over filesize at Blu-Ray rips.
But i think the video bitrate is not enough. 6 111 Kbps (Encounter at Farpoint) and 4 531 Kbps (Sins of the Father)? The ideal would be 10 000- 15 000 Kbps for a 1080p video. That means a 4 GB/episode filesize (so 8 GB for the 2-part Encounter at Farpoint), but most people prefer quality over filesize at Blu-Ray rips.
F what all these nerds say about the file size. People think they deserve everything for free and immediately. I enjoyed watching this. Sorry the other trolls didn't appreciate it. Maybe they prefer purchasing....
Also Regpulp I look forward to your upload since your a x264 master. Until then, lets appreciate. Something you're clearly unable to do.
I love your quality... if you have Season 1 on BR, and after you get your replacement discs, could you rip Season 1 with this quality? :D
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